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Transferring an app from one instance to another

rdeardorff@spi-ind.com — Fri, 13 Nov 2026 17:54:58 GMT

When migrating an app from one instance to another, occasionally we get this error

we then have to go into the target system and manually delete the app and the underlying widgets to be able to migrate it. We tried migrating using the export to instance feature and also to a save file with the same error

we ended up writing an sql identifying the widgets on the target system

select listagg(vvid, ', '), count(*)
from space6d20.vvwdg100
group by vvcts
having count(*) > 1

and removed the offending widgets, and were able to export to the D20 instance..

Shouldn't the normal export be able to handle it if the widget is used in more than 1 app?

Launching Fusion 5250 in New Window

rsnell — Thu, 12 Nov 2026 22:31:26 GMT

When launching Fusion 5250 into its own browser window, is there any way to prevent the 5250 session from being closed out if you log out of Valence? Alternatively, is there a way to launch a Fusion 5250 session that is in a separate Valence session? Closing out Valence while 5250 sessions are active can cause problems with abnormal termination of 5250 applications (whether in a separate window or in the portal)

Launching Fusion 5250 in New Window

rsnell — Thu, 12 Nov 2026 21:41:43 GMT

Launcher and Hamburger Menu Enhancement Request

rsnell — Thu, 12 Nov 2026 14:22:52 GMT

I'm getting feedback from my users that the Launcher and hamburger menu on the left of the portal can seem overwhelming, especially as we add more and more options. There can be a lot to scroll through to find options. I recognize that the search is available and also the favorites, but these don't necessarily address the feedback I'm receiving. It would be useful if the categories both on the launcher and hamburger menu could all be collapsed to be able to simplify the look of the portal overall. An option on the user profile and/or in the user preferences would be useful to default to a collapsed view. The ability to turn off the launcher and rely on the hamburger menu would also be useful.

Helper Program not Called on Field Change Using AppVar

Shawn Smalley — Thu, 12 Nov 2026 13:23:48 GMT

On 6.4, I have a form widget that calls a helper program on creation and on Field Change after 1000 milliseconds. The program checks all the values in the form to make sure they are within requirements for the user to go to the next menu. If everything looks good, it changes an app variable that is tied to enabling/disabling a button which allows the user to go to the next menu.

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Most of the fields on the form are filled in automatically based on saved user information, but they must always select an end-of-shift time to be able to log in, so this is usually the only field they actually have to edit.

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Clicking the button on the form will bring up a pop-up to give them intervals of time within 14 hours to set as their clock-out time.
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Once they select one, that sets an App Variable which is linked to the field for "Date And Time Your Shift Will End?" on the form
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However, as you can see, even though every field is now filled out, the log in button is still greyed out.

If I change any other field on the form, the button will then be enabled and i can continue, so it seems to be an issue with changing a field via linked app variable not triggering the on change call to the helper program.

Any help on this would be appreciated, thank you!

Tile buttons at 6.4

rsnell — Wed, 11 Nov 2026 22:44:36 GMT

I installed the latest version of 6.4. I tried adding tile buttons in Behaviors. I added a button, but can't find it anywhere to edit.

Fusion 5250 Error Reset

rsnell — Thu, 05 Nov 2026 20:14:05 GMT

Pressing Reset (control) does not clear the error message in Fusion 5250. The message remains and may overlay function keys in our applications.

Broken charts

rsnell — Thu, 05 Nov 2026 19:56:52 GMT

I just installed the latest version of 6.4. I have an app that displays a number of column charts. The underlying data is retrieved after setting a vvin_virtual Parameter to a complex date calculation (date98 >= date(trim(char(year(current_date) - CASE WHEN month(current_date) = 12 THEN 0 ELSE 1 END ) ) || '-' || right( '0' || trim(char(mod(month(current_date), 12) + 1)), 2 ) || '-01' ) AND date98 <= current_date). The app worked fine at 6.3 but returns no data at 6.4.

Bypass or Override vvIn_virtual

gwilburn — Thu, 05 Nov 2026 19:19:09 GMT

Just curious if there is a way to bypass or omit the vvIn_virtual() portion of a data source... I noticed the "vvIn_virtual Overrides" option but that appears to only work with true/false values. I'm looking to override it completely.

Pivot Widget - Row Subtotal Positions

Allie O'Kelley — Thu, 05 Nov 2026 14:00:22 GMT

Can we have the option in the widget configuration to turn off row subtotal positions? I am able to do it on the actual widget when I choose "self configuration" settings, but I don't need the users having to remember to turn that off every time they use it.

Thanks

Pivot Widget - Filter Widget

Allie O'Kelley — Wed, 04 Nov 2026 17:11:20 GMT

I am unable to filter a widget with an available field on my pivot widget. That field is not displayed, but I have it selected as "available". But when it's selected and available it will filter. Can we make the pivot widget filter "available" fields?

Get Data and Charts

rsnell — Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:48:52 GMT

I have an app that contains a number of charts that all use the same data source. I tried using the technique to Get Data by triggering a local event at start up and populating an app variable. I set the data property on each chart to the app variable, but the charts do not display anything. Is this a bug or do I need to do something different for charts?

#050 - Valence 6.4 Behaviors

kpanwar — Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:33:42 GMT

SUMMARY: In this month’s Valence Developer Diaries, the CNX Dev team walked through the completely redesigned Behaviors editor in Nitro App Builder (NAB), released in Valence 6.4. The demo showed the new layout with triggers and actions grouped by category, a dedicated event listeners area, and new copy and move options for actions. It also covered the new Application Lifecycle screen for startup and close programs and URL parameters, plus much easier navigation: see who fired an event, search across all actions, and jump straight into a widget’s behaviors from the app itself.

URL: https://youtu.be/6gt-z_4xRKQ?si=tBMgxe2JGbKd1kPn

TIMESTAMPS AND FEATURES COVERED:

00:43 - Why the Behaviors editor was rebuilt
01:23 - Building a simple demo app: customer list and map
01:48 - First look at the new Behaviors layout
02:37 - Triggers and adding actions by category
03:51 - The plus button: adding buttons, icon columns, and row menus
04:48 - Jumping straight into a new button’s click flow
05:25 - Moving actions to another trigger
06:22 - Copying and pasting actions
06:52 - Comparing with the old Behaviors (Valence 6.3)
08:05 - New Application Lifecycle screen: startup and close programs, URL parameters
09:32 - A more complex example: the Orders app
10:15 - Event listeners: seeing who fired an event
11:27 - Section events and widget triggers
12:05 - Features in the new Behaviors
12:43 - Searching triggers and actions
13:20 - Jumping into behaviors directly from the app
14:07 - Nested actions: Call RPG program on success
14:52 - Icon column and row click shortcuts
15:41 - Room to grow: future Behaviors features
17:10 - Q&A and wrap-up

#049 - Generating RPG with the Valence VS Code Extension

kpanwar — Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:32:57 GMT

SUMMARY: In this month’s Valence Developer Diaries, the CNX Dev team kicked off a multi-part look at the new Valence extension for VS Code. After a quick tour of the extension, the team explored a Nitro App Builder (NAB) app right from VS Code, including its widgets, editable form fields, RPG calls, and the new App Map with flows, interactions, and insights. Then came the main demo: using the Valence Assistant to read the app’s structure and automatically fill out an RPG template program to handle its save and delete calls. The session wrapped up with Q&A on what data is sent to the AI, zero data retention, and token usage.

URL: https://youtu.be/HU923JpWItQ?si=rSYFRUXVklyHpDr4

TIMESTAMPS AND FEATURES COVERED:

00:23 - Installing the Valence VS Code extension
00:50 - Extension tour: connections, toolbar, and app trees
01:36 - Today’s demo: filling out an RPG template program with AI
02:34 - Reviewing the app’s RPG calls: save and delete actions
03:22 - Launching and editing the app inside VS Code
04:02 - Widgets, data sources, and editable form fields
05:00 - The App Map overview
05:53 - Viewing SQL and data for a data source
06:04 - Flows and interactions
07:19 - Insights: unused app variables, health, and RPG calls
08:01 - App variables: writers, readers, and listeners
08:31 - Reverse trace and section activity
09:24 - Most active widgets and app variables
10:01 - Chatting with the assistant about your app
10:30 - Adding the app structure and RPG program to the AI chat
11:46 - The assistant plans its changes
12:21 - Previewing and applying the generated code
12:39 - Reviewing the generated save and delete logic
14:03 - Compiling the program
14:18 - Q&A: Exporting the App Map to PDF
14:57 - Testing the app with the new RPG program
16:15 - Q&A: What data is sent to the AI, and retention policies
17:33 - Zero data retention (ZDR) models and providers
18:08 - Viewing the chat log to see exactly what’s sent
19:04 - Q&A: Token count and assistant usage
20:28 - Wrap-up

#048 - Valence 6.4 Overview

kpanwar — Tue, 03 Nov 2026 20:32:07 GMT

SUMMARY: In this Valence Developer Diaries session, the CNX Dev team walked through some of the biggest features of Valence 6.4, released June 30th. The tour covered the updated Portal look, a much smarter Valence Assistant, AI-generated app documentation, and a detailed look at the new Data Chat widget in Nitro App Builder (NAB). The team also showed the redesigned App Builder with live previews, the brand-new Valence VS Code extension, and the fully updated Valence guides.

URL: https://youtu.be/ibd-rCaWaJM?si=oChd1de1gbC276B0

TIMESTAMPS AND FEATURES COVERED:

00:19 - Valence 6.4 overview and what’s covered today
01:18 - New look and theming in the Valence Portal
01:46 - Improved Valence Assistant: creating a data source by chatting
03:27 - Only table metadata is shared with the AI, never your data
04:15 - Q&A: Disabling the assistant in 6.4
04:50 - New app documentation feature: user and technical docs
06:12 - Reviewing the generated user documentation
07:04 - Documentation and the AI disable setting
07:20 - Reviewing the generated technical documentation
08:27 - The new Data Chat widget in the Orders example app
09:42 - Asking for KPIs and follow-up questions
10:15 - Changing chart types and downloading results
10:41 - Data Chat only sees metadata, not table data
11:46 - Clicking a result to navigate to another section
12:26 - Setting up the data source behind the Data Chat
13:36 - Configuring the Data Chat: choosing fields to expose
14:24 - Title, start message, and custom instructions
15:29 - Example: changing behavior with instructions (state codes)
16:13 - Chat options: user instructions, follow-up questions, drill down
17:29 - Guard rails: limiting data by user with a template program
18:46 - AI Access setting: giving the AI access to actual field data
21:01 - Adding tools to the Data Chat (coming in a future episode)
21:35 - Redesigned App Builder layout: app variables, behaviors, theming
22:37 - One save instead of OK, save, and save
23:06 - New slide-out settings and searchable widget properties
24:12 - Live preview: see changes before you save
26:19 - New Valence VS Code extension: setup and connections
27:37 - Browsing data sources, widgets, and apps in VS Code
28:49 - Viewing editable form fields, RPG calls, and app variables
30:10 - Opening widgets and data sources in the NAB editor
31:21 - App Map: structure, flows, and interactions
32:42 - Flows view
33:43 - Extension toolbar: switch, Portal, Fusion, disconnect
34:43 - Assistant usage and extension documentation
35:29 - Test suites: comparing apps across instances
37:19 - Valence Assistant chat in VS Code: NAB agent, agent, plan mode
38:44 - Portal Admin: assistant usage and global instructions
40:01 - Fully updated Valence guides and documentation
41:36 - Q&A: Do test suites use the assistant?
42:15 - Wrap-up and upcoming deep dives